tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24102082.post8964254745954531377..comments2023-11-05T04:42:25.107-05:00Comments on Chasing Strength: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24102082.post-51418793893344130022007-03-09T19:14:00.000-05:002007-03-09T19:14:00.000-05:00Cayenne, I recommend thorough reading of the manua...Cayenne, <BR/><BR/>I recommend thorough reading of the manual and study of the DVDs. Also find a Z certed. trainer near you.Geoff Neuperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429352189298183355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24102082.post-75473831770577502912007-03-08T18:43:00.000-05:002007-03-08T18:43:00.000-05:00Hello Geoff,What would you suggest to someone who ...Hello Geoff,<BR/><BR/>What would you suggest to someone who has a sincere interest in Z but is nowhere near trained instruction, and is limited to DVD & manual guided self-study ?<BR/><BR/>Thank you<BR/><BR/>Eddie Friedmancayennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09786624045494206528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24102082.post-11583438249538742802007-03-07T17:08:00.000-05:002007-03-07T17:08:00.000-05:002 cents worth from someone that has very minimal Z...2 cents worth from someone that has very minimal Z knowledge - I have a client to whom I recommended Z and at first it was not helping and I reminded him of what Geoff said - you are asking a question - if the answer is no - you are not doing the right thing - I advised him to perform 1 drill and see what the effect was - if good - go no further - use that drill.<BR/><BR/>I think something that happens when you have traditional joint mobility experience you just want to use the Z as your joint mobility work and this is not what you want to do when you have an active restriction/pain - it is more like - drill > yes or no> if yes stay here > if no - move on to the next drill (or re-evaluate how you did the drill) - treat the area and resolve the issue before you begin using Z as a daily mobility practice.<BR/><BR/>At least that is my understanding of it...<BR/><BR/>BrettBrett Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03192435046685650988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24102082.post-32316006035135665302007-03-07T11:57:00.000-05:002007-03-07T11:57:00.000-05:00Franz, Good points as always. I believe the reason...Franz, Good points as always. I believe the reason Z didn't help your low back is because you asked your body the wrong question/didn't know the right question to ask. Is that your fault? Yes, if you don't know how to use the system. If you haven't been to the R-Phase cert. than you haven't seen "behind the curtain" so-to-speak. <BR/><BR/>Am I advocating that every trainer/PT go to the R-Phase Cert? Absolutely! Why not?! Everything else failed me. The reason I'm a "Z success" is because the principles of R-Phase make perfect sense to me based on all the failures I've experienced. Plus, I treated the last year as an experiment: Z only. No other modalities. And it paid off big time. Was I skeptical? You bet! Did I have any other choice? Not really.<BR/><BR/>Have a spent a ton of money on Z between my wife and I? How much is a ton? Has it been worth every penny? A resounding YES!<BR/><BR/>Is Z very technical. Actually, no. It is very precise though. It's a principle based system, not a system of exercises. While Dr. Cobb was working on me last night, I knew exactly what he was after without him telling me because I understand most of the principles. Have I been helped by studying under Dr. Cobb? Without question. <BR/><BR/>I absolutely agree with you, though, like anything in life you get out of it what you put into it.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for chiming in. Good points/questions as always.Geoff Neuperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429352189298183355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24102082.post-70307603019869945382007-03-07T11:35:00.000-05:002007-03-07T11:35:00.000-05:00Geoff, I must say that it is hard to really unders...Geoff, I must say that it is hard to really understand Z unless you have been with Eric personally. So in that sense you are correct. You have to go the guy who really understand Z and how to apply it. Z definitely helped my neck, ALOT! It has not helped my low back, in fact it made it worse. IS that the fault of Z-health, NO. My body couldn't handle it at the time. Overall a great system, although I can relate to people and there frustrations about not getting the results they desire. Going to the cert would be beneficial to learn from Eric himself. <BR/><BR/>Like we have discussed before one of the potential drawbacks to Z is that it is very technical and not always easy to learn. It looks easy while observing someone do the R-phase drills, but as you know, they are not. Like anything worthwhile in life, what you put into it you will get out of it.<BR/><BR/>I still think Z is worthwhile and effective for most people. A great tool to have the toolbag!Franz Snidemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07214347683076253495noreply@blogger.com